David Morris: Turrell & Thing-Places

Hi Linnaea,

I’m emailing you the pages from my book where I talk about Turrell, to show how artistic explorations with/variations on light can prompt phenomenological insights into basic concepts. In this case, it’s insights about the inherent relation between things as real and solid, and places in which we experience them.

Some further thoughts:

Xin Wei and Helga, in going back and reading over this material, I was reminded about this connection that in the book I call the ‘thing-place’ relation. This leads me to wonder: maybe the memory-place relation hinges not just on our moving bodies, but on the thing-place relation. Things need places to be the things that they are, and maybe conversely this means that in our encounter with them, things ‘drag along’ their places and places call out for the specific sorts of things that they harbour. So perhaps it’s not just habit body that tunes us in to the past of places, but a past gets sedimented in things too, insofar as they call for something more than themselves, for a place in which to be the things that they are.

In this context, maybe the ‘room effect’ articulates place in ways that ‘help’ things be the things that they are, and thence ‘helps’ memory. Turrell’s piece is a sort of removal of articulate room and thence of determinate place. Put more simply: maybe things need room to be, and this doesn’t mean: room as empty space, but articulate room.

I wonder if this sort of thinking resonates with issues in architecture and lighting, e.g., if architecture and lighting demand of us that we think of things, features, etc. in terms of settings beyond them that let them stand out as what they are. E.g., to let the stairway appear as stairway and safe to go up, we need to think not just of the stairway, but settings and lighting beyond it.

I copy Harry on this too, because of the lighting issue, and because this also sounding to me like the issues are germane to theatre as well. I.e., I am thinking in theatre you can make a thing be a sort of ‘hyper-thing’, over-invested with meaning, by way of lighting, e.g., a chair not just as for sitting on, but as a place of rest, repose, comfort, or in contrast a site of imprisonment, confinement, or sedentariness, by way of lighting.

Best,

David

 

Thoughts for next meeting

Hi everyone,

I wanted to share some questions that came out of Ed Casey's visit, and that I hope might stimulate some discussion at our next meeting.

What are the minimal conditions necessary for generating "room effects", i.e. the minimal experiential conditions of "roominess"?

This is both a critical question for us in trying to design experimental scenarios, AND a major substantive question for us in studying the phenomenon of place as (we are hypothesizing) structured by "rooms" and "doorways" (broadly and provisionally construed). (I suspect that this circularity, in which our experimental design depends on answers to the very questions that the experiment is designed to answer, will be characteristic of the kinds of questions we are asking and the kinds of experiments we are designing. This is either an insoluble problem or the kernel of our method.)

Ed's visit prompted us to think about this question in terms of edges, borders, boundaries and limits. What delimits a room? Are the limits of a room thick or thin, sharp or fuzzy, fixed or plastic? What delimits one room from another, and how does one room open onto another?

Hallways: when is a room not a room, but an extended passageway between rooms, an in-between space? Is a hallway like a long doorway, or a doorway like a short hallway?

I'd also like to think about pathways: from one room to another, within a room, and as structured by the objects and other people within a room. (I'm tempted here to start thinking about a kind of field theory of human movement, the fluid dynamics of groups and crowds, but I'm not sure if this is the direction we want to go in.)

Is the place-world structured by nested rooms or room-like regions/zones? E.g. The rooms of my apartment within my apartment within my building within my intersection within my neighborhood, etc.

From the experimental design perspective, notice that the minimal conditions of roominess can be thought of not just in terms of a physical environment, but in terms of how participants are asked to interact with that environment. For example, a set of lines on the floor might be enough to generate room effects PROVIDED that participants are asked not to step outside of these lines. (In other words, a room is not a "thing", but a meaningful situation. There are lots of ways to change the meaning of a situation, and manipulating the physical environment is only one of them.)

The smaller the requirements are for generating rooms, the easier it will be to generate new room configurations, and even manipulate them on the fly, perhaps even in response to the movements of the participants. (I keep coming back to this sort of thing in my own thinking, to environments that respond dynamically to participants, as a way of generating unanticipated phenomena and situations. In other words, I want to design experimental scenarios that can surprise me, that aren't fixed in advance, rather than placing people in a fixed scenario and then waiting to see how they respond.)

See you on the 3rd.
Noah

TML Wednesday research seminars in November

Dear Memory Folks,

I'm away this coming week, so David and I decided to postpone the Memory group till the follow slot: Wed November 10.

Therefore according to my calendar, here are the few grad research seminars in November:

November 3, eco-ecology, plant group
Spinoza Part 2

November 10, memory group
experiment design

November 17, eco-ecology, plant group
Spinoza Part 3 -- finish Spinoza in November ?

November 24, memory group
experiment design

We should plan on writing up the experiment design by the beginning of Dec, so we can plan on building it in January.  

Now is a good time, I think to invite Patrick Harrop and Harry Smoak, as well as the Ozone group to the experimental design sessions so we can mutually enrich the FQRSC sensate / temporally texturing of buildings / built environment discussion with the Memory+Place thread.  I'll ask Patrick and Harry about their schedules.

Cheers,
Xin Wei


______________________________________________________________________________
Sha Xin Wei, Ph.D.
Canada Research Chair • Associate Professor • Design and Computation Arts • Concordia University
Director, Topological Media Lab • topologicalmedialab.net/  •  http://flavors.me/shaxinwei
______________________________________________________________________________

dog doorways

Abstract
We investigated a combination of perseveration and detour behaviour in 50 domestic dogs (Canis familiaris). They were required to make a detour through a gap at one end of a straight barrier in order to reach a target. After one, two, three or four repeats, the gap was moved to the opposite end of the barrier, and the detour behaviour of the dogs was recorded. Although the dogs could solve simple detour tasks (80% correct in the first trial), they committed a perseveration error of following the previously learned route despite the clearly visible change in the location of the gap. This ‘misbehaviour’ occurred in 29 of 30 dogs after only two learning trials. They never reached a 100% correct performance level again even after four runs through the second gap location. The results suggest that dogs are reluctant to unlearn acquired spatial motor responses and reinforced navigation, which has important implications for experimental design, everyday dog training and our understanding of their mental capacities.

David Morris: Jacobson articles

[From David Morris]

I’m attaching the Jacobson articles on home to send to the group. Some notes that we could transmit too:

I thought these articles by Jacobson would be helpful, given our discussions of home and doorways, especially the article on agoraphobia (if people had time to read just one of the two articles, it should be this one.)

I think the home and doorways focus might be helpful for us. What is it about leaving through doorways that conduces forgetting, what is it about entering doorways that conduces remembering? Leaving home can mean: leaving the past. Returning home can mean: returning to the past. But note that not every physical leaving a room is a forgetting or leaving behind: when I go to the photocopier outside my office, I am still very much involved with what I am working on in my office.

Note that focusing on the doorway issue does two things for us: 1) It turns us away from bigger and harder to ‘manipulate’ dimensions of place, to smaller and easier to ‘manipulate’ issues of moving transitions between places, as shaped by joint architectural-bodily structures. 2) It gives  a temporal dimension to our investigation, the rhythm and speed of leaving and entering. If I slowly wander out of my office, maybe this keeps me more in it; if I slowly wander from my doorstep to the depanneur, maybe I am more at home still, than if I sharply run out to get a bottle of wine. If a projected doorway slowly drifts past me, maybe I am still in the room. Etc.

David

Experimental rig for Friday (today!) by 1 PM

I'll be there half past noon. Unfortunately I can't make it before that. m.
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Mazi Javidiani   مازیار
http://www.javidiani.com/



On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Sha Xin Wei <shaxinwei@gmail.com> wrote:
Who will come set this up today in the TML?   Please let us know :)
Thanks,
Xin Wei

On 2010-10-14, at 6:05 PM, David Morris wrote:

The seminar is 11-1, but I have to run from our seminar at 1. I'm hoping we
can leave Casey playing with the rig until 1, so we have as much time as
possible with the whole group for the seminar bit.

I'll bring my noise cancelling headphones.

David
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-memory-place@concordia.ca
[mailto:owner-memory-place@concordia.ca] On Behalf Of zohar
Sent: October-11-10 5:36 PM
To: Navid Navab
Cc: Sha Xin Wei; post@memoryplace.posterous.com; Memory Seminar; Timothy
Sutton; Maziar Balazadeh
Subject: Re: Memory+Place Seminar this Week

Hi all.
we can recreate the set up, Tim has the various variations of patches we
used, so it shouldn't be a problem to rig a station of 2 headphones.

Zohar

On Oct 11, 2010, at 5:32 PM, Navid Navab wrote:

Hello All,

I'll be there on part of Friday's meeting but I will not make it to the
Wednesday seminar/campfire.

-Nav

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Sha Xin Wei <shaxinwei@gmail.com> wrote:
This Wednesday Oct 13, 3:30-5:00, we will discuss Casey's second chapter on
Memory & Place.  

It would be a good idea to prep for the Friday Oct 15 seminar with Casey 12
- 2 in the TML.  Casey's talk is Friday 4-6, EV 11th floor.

Zohar, Mazi, Tim, or Navid,
would it be possible to set up the headphone rig we did last year so that
Casey can try it out on Friday in TML?   Maybe you can show some others how
to do this so we can set it up ourselves in the TML anyway?

Xin Wei



______________________________________________________________________________
Sha Xin Wei, Ph.D.
Canada Research Chair • Associate Professor • Design and Computation Arts • Concordia University
Director, Topological Media Lab • topologicalmedialab.net/  •  http://flavors.me/shaxinwei
______________________________________________________________________________


Experimental rig for Friday (today!) by 1 PM

Who will come set this up today in the TML?   Please let us know :)
Thanks,
Xin Wei

On 2010-10-14, at 6:05 PM, David Morris wrote:

The seminar is 11-1, but I have to run from our seminar at 1. I'm hoping we
can leave Casey playing with the rig until 1, so we have as much time as
possible with the whole group for the seminar bit.

I'll bring my noise cancelling headphones.

David
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-memory-place@concordia.ca
[mailto:owner-memory-place@concordia.ca] On Behalf Of zohar
Sent: October-11-10 5:36 PM
To: Navid Navab
Cc: Sha Xin Wei; post@memoryplace.posterous.com; Memory Seminar; Timothy
Sutton; Maziar Balazadeh
Subject: Re: Memory+Place Seminar this Week

Hi all.
we can recreate the set up, Tim has the various variations of patches we
used, so it shouldn't be a problem to rig a station of 2 headphones.

Zohar

On Oct 11, 2010, at 5:32 PM, Navid Navab wrote:

Hello All,

I'll be there on part of Friday's meeting but I will not make it to the
Wednesday seminar/campfire.

-Nav

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Sha Xin Wei <shaxinwei@gmail.com> wrote:
This Wednesday Oct 13, 3:30-5:00, we will discuss Casey's second chapter on
Memory & Place.  

It would be a good idea to prep for the Friday Oct 15 seminar with Casey 12
- 2 in the TML.  Casey's talk is Friday 4-6, EV 11th floor.

Zohar, Mazi, Tim, or Navid,
would it be possible to set up the headphone rig we did last year so that
Casey can try it out on Friday in TML?   Maybe you can show some others how
to do this so we can set it up ourselves in the TML anyway?

Xin Wei



______________________________________________________________________________
Sha Xin Wei, Ph.D.
Canada Research Chair • Associate Professor • Design and Computation Arts • Concordia University
Director, Topological Media Lab • topologicalmedialab.net/  •  http://flavors.me/shaxinwei
______________________________________________________________________________

Experimental rig for Friday, tomorrow.

The seminar is 11-1, but I have to run from our seminar at 1. I'm hoping we
can leave Casey playing with the rig until 1, so we have as much time as
possible with the whole group for the seminar bit.

I'll bring my noise cancelling headphones. David
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-memory-place@concordia.ca
[mailto:owner-memory-place@concordia.ca] On Behalf Of zohar
Sent: October-11-10 5:36 PM
To: Navid Navab
Cc: Sha Xin Wei; post@memoryplace.posterous.com; Memory Seminar; Timothy
Sutton; Maziar Balazadeh
Subject: Re: Memory+Place Seminar this Week

Hi all.
we can recreate the set up, Tim has the various variations of patches we
used, so it shouldn't be a problem to rig a station of 2 headphones.

Zohar

On Oct 11, 2010, at 5:32 PM, Navid Navab wrote:

Hello All,

I'll be there on part of Friday's meeting but I will not make it to the
Wednesday seminar/campfire.

-Nav

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Sha Xin Wei wrote:
This Wednesday Oct 13, 3:30-5:00, we will discuss Casey's second chapter on
Memory & Place. It would be a good idea to prep for the Friday Oct 15 seminar with Casey 12
- 2 in the TML. Casey's talk is Friday 4-6, EV 11th floor.

Zohar, Mazi, Tim, or Navid, would it be possible to set up the headphone rig we did last year so that
Casey can try it out on Friday in TML? Maybe you can show some others how
to do this so we can set it up ourselves in the TML anyway?

Xin Wei

joint with OCAD/GRAND Wed Nov 10, 3:30

Dear Memory+Place / Psychology and Architecture Folks:

Wed Nov 10, let's bring some partners from the GRAND network in OCAD & Ryerson universities in Toronto into our discussion of experiment design.   Paula Gardner (OCAD), Barbara Rauch (OCAD), and Jason Nolan (Ryerson) are interested in joining us in a videoconference on that date.   The GRAND team in Toronto is building sensor systems and a responsive environments specifically for mapping movement to more structured media like BRAVO video archives.  There are other research goals as well.  Jason and Barbara are working on a project with autistic people (children), that they can describe Nov 10.

Paula and I see a common interest in two levels: (1) leveraging, sharing TML and their more specialized physiological sensor platforms to support our different experiments; (2) sharing our different research questions in order to refine them, and finding our way toward different experimental designs.

Cheers,
Xin Wei

Begin forwarded message:

From: "Gardner, Paula(Academic)" pgardner@faculty.ocad.ca>
Date: October 10, 2010 12:30:54 PM EDT
To: "Rauch, Barbara(Academic)" brauch@faculty.ocad.ca>, "jnolan@ryerson.ca" jnolan@ryerson.ca>, Sha Xin Wei shaxinwei@gmail.com>
Subject: meeting on Memory project/GRAND

When: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:30 PM-5:00 PM. Eastern Standard Time
Where: mobile lab. video conference to Concordia

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Barbara and Jason: Can you possibly make this time? Xin Wei wants to discuss a memory project in GRAND they are doing that might be linkable to our GRAND Projects...

Present:
Paula Gardner
Barbara Rauch
Jason Nolan
selected Graduate Students

Sha Xin Wei, CRC New Media, TML
David Morris, Dept. Philosophy
selected Grad Students Concordia, McGIll, Boston U.



Paula Gardner, PhD
Associate Professor, Liberal Studies,
Co-Director, Mobile Experience Lab
mobilelab.ca/biomapping
Mailing Address:
100 McCaul St.
OCAD University
Toronto, ON M5T1W1


Jason Nolan, PhD
Director -  Experiential Design and Gaming Environments (EDGE) Lab
Assistant Professor - School of Early Childhood Education/
MA programs in Early Childhood Studies/
Communications and Culture 
Ryerson University
350 Victoria Street, Room KHS 350
Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5B 2K3
email: jnolan@ryerson.ca (preferred contact)
ph: +1-416-979-5000 x7030 (messages checked weekly)
ph: +1-416-979-5000 x2074 (edge lab - no messages)
fax: +1-416-979-5239 



Barbara Rauch, PhD
Assistant Professor
Ontario College of Art and Design
100 McCaul Street
Toronto, ON M5T1W1
416 977-6000 ext. 4653
brauch@faculty.ocad.ca

Wed Oct 20, 5:00 - 6:30 PM, Psychology & Architecture (Helga Wild, Linnaea Tillett)

Dear Memory+Place Seminar:

On Wed Oct 20, 5:00 - 6:30 PM  (Note this is a later hour, during the TML group meeting time, after Niklas Damiris' talk), 
with our guests, Helga Wild, and Linnaea Tillett, we'll start a discussion toward a Spring workshop on psychology and architecture.

It could also be interesting for Laura E, and Lenka to come if you can, because I hope the Spring workshop can synergetically correlate with one or more installations sited in the Bain St Michel during the residency (March - April 2011).

- Xin Wei